Laritza Diversent, the Cuban Lawyer who met with Obama / Cubanet, Manuel
Posted on May 28, 2015
Cubanet, Manual Guerra Perez, Havana, 30 April 2015 — Laritza Diversent
is a lawyer and director of the Cubalx Center of Legal Information, an
independent office that has offered free legal advice since 2010. She
graduated from the University of Havana in Law (2008), she is married
and has a 16-year-old son.
What exactly is Cubalex and for what purpose did this project come about?
Cubalex is an office that specializes in human rights issues, focusing
on national law and the conventions of international laws, which Cuba
supposedly relies on. We try to document violations of Human Rights, but
our core business is to provide free legal advice to citizens.
The legal advice is for citizens who are ignorant of the law with
regards to disparate issues, topics as diverse as housing, criminal,
immigration procedures, in short, the varied issues we face daily.
Always in legal terms.
Do you collaborate with lawyers from the collective law firms to
represent your clients? Who makes up Cubalex?
Our organization is composed of several lawyers, human rights activists,
a medical assistant, paralegal and secretary, here in Havana. We also
have offices in Camagüey, Granma and Las Tunas. We received requests
from the Isle of Youth and to the East, from Baracoa for example.
We do not work with lawyers from the collective law firms, although we
do work with other independent lawyers. They don’t allow us to represent
our clients in court proceedings, so we have no link with lawyers from
collective law firms.
Should Cuba modify the current judicial system?
The Cuban judicial system needs many reforms. Many articles of the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights are not addressed in national
legislation. There are no laws to exercise the right to complain,
protest, freedom of speech, nor for the protection of women, or people
Cuba has signed many international treaties that have no direct
application within the system. The National Assembly (Parliament) has
had no interest in legislating on human rights issues. This is a very
difficult issue for the government. To date it has not evidenced any
intention to provide protection or guarantees for citizens’ rights.
Recently you lost a lot of information from computers in this center
There was a robbery in our office where they stole all the computers,
all the mass storage media with all the information of years of work.
It was an intentional theft, with a specific order to take only what
contained information. My husband and I were abroad and my son had gone
At that time part of the team was undertaking a training abroad. Inside
the house there was valuable equipment that wasn’t stolen. This incident
resulted in our being unable to serve the public for a month.
Why are people flocking to Cubalex and not the collective law firms?
I think in collective law firms they don’t give the required attention
to their clients. They do not provide the free legal advice they offer
and we do.
The lawyers of the collective law firms have a conflict of interest
because they act on behalf of an individual and the state at the same time.
The Ministry of Justice has established fees for legal service contract
but the lawyers of the collective firms charge extra to try to
complement the service they offer. The people who usually come to us are
poor and are unable to pay those extra fees a lawyer asks. If a customer
does not pay those fees, there is a complete lack of interest and
motivation that results in little or no results.
In many cases, lawyers for law firms act more like judges and
prosecutors than like defense lawyers. They are also ignorant with
regard to Human Rights, which is where we specialize. ”
Cubalex collaborates with international organizations
We collaborate on Human Rights, information and complaints to agencies
of the United Nation. With the Office of the High Commissioner for Human
Rights or the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, through the
provision of injunctions, presenting petitions, hearings. We also have
contacts with other international organizations specializing in human
rights and other related organizations.
We had to go to these institutions because we are not educated on Human
Rights. Although we studied law we were not given adequate training on
the subject and so we had to go to these organizations to give us
tutorials, information to present strategic litigation at the
international level on this issue, as we do the State. If this does not
resolve it, then we present them to international organizations. This is
the kind of relationship that we have these bodies.
Do you feel satisfied with the work done Cubalex?
We have grown from the legal, personal and cognitive point of view. We
have been able to learn more about the concerns of the population, to
know what are the main violations toward society. In 2013 we went to the
United Nations and participated in report to the Cuban State on the
convention on discrimination against women. We have presented reports on
people with disabilities, the situation of human rights defenders such
as the Ladies in White and independent journalists at hearings of the
Inter-American Commission. We want to give a minimum of information to
the majority who do not know that Human Rights are violated in Cuba. We
live in a society almost closed in terms of information, with limited
access to the Internet.
Have Cubalex members been assaulted or harassed by the authorities?
Assaulted, not directly, but they have been visited by the Department of
State Security (DSE) members working here. Our lawyers in Eastern Cuba
have received a lot of pressure because the authorities say they will
not allow a site like we have here. Authorities also increased the smear
campaigns in digital media.
We have requested an injunction from the Inter-American Commission on
Human Rights that was given to us to protect our work team. The State
must follow the recommendations of the Commission although we know that
they do not do so but have responsibilities toward the commission.
Therefore we ask for our lives and our personal integrity. Everyone
knows that the Law 88 remains in force, it has not been commuted, or
suspended, so we fear that they could take any legal action against us.
What are your thoughts on the resumption of relations between the
governments of the United States and Cuba?
On a personal level I am in favor of this reset because I think it’s the
first step to end the conflict. This is a conflict between governments
and those who principally suffer are the Cuban people.
On the other hand, the new policy published by the White House on the
issue of the private sector, human rights, support for civil society and
communications, we still have reservations about, in the sense that
there is a legal system of citizen control that prevents this
development. Because I believe it is a necessary step does not mean I
agree with everything or believe that it will be effective.
It is the responsibility of civil society to find information on these
legal restrictions that exist and prevent the politics of goodwill of
the United States toward the private sector (which I still insist this
sector does not exist in Cuba), Human Rights and civil society, to warn
about the dangers could represent, because here there is a blockade of
the government against its citizens.
The contact between the two governments has awakened civil society,
which sees that change in Cuba is not dependent on any foreign
government but on Cubans themselves. We are preparing ourselves,
therefore to seek ways to put pressure on the government, if they do not
want to talk to us we have to out pressure on them to do so.
How would you describe VII Summit of the Americas in Panama, where you
In general terms the summit was a positive balance for independent Cuban
civil society, and I had the opportunity to participate on an equal
footing with others in Latin America. This was very helpful to make it
known that there are people in Cuba who think differently than the
government, who want democracy and respect for human rights.
Moreover, the Cuban State showed its own nature, violent and intolerant.
Describe your meeting with US President Barack Obama, in the forum of
civil society in Panama
“Firstly I should clarify that I didn’t participate in the forum of
civil society, as I was not accepted by the Panama NGO that selected the
I was in a private meeting by invitation, where the dissident Manuel
Cuesta Morua and 13 other leaders of Latin American civil society were
also present. There President Barack Obama expressed his support to
foster the development of civil society in the region, and invited those
present to say in which way they (also there were the the presidents of
Uruguay and Costa Rica) could support us and encourage the Latin
American civil society. Venezuela and Cuba were the ones who began to
offer recommendations because both countries have the most repressive
contexts in the entire region. Most agree that civil society must have
sources of funding to develop and to carry out their projects.
In my particular case I called attention to the dangers that surround
the Cuban legal system with regard to the policy that the US government
intends to develop with Cuba on the issue of the private sector,
communications and everything else. It is impossible to obtain any
financial or material resources through donations or any other kind of
help that can be given by current banking regulations within Cuba.
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